The Consequences Of SJW Messaging In Star Wars

In genuine Star Wars, the Jedi actively engaged in battle.  As Obi-Wan Kenobi explained to Luke:

“For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times. Before the Empire.”

Thinking people understand, that guardians…guard.  A guardian can’t very well guard without getting involved in a tumble or two.

Yoda taught Luke,

 “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.”

So a Jedi does in fact engage in violence, for the purposes of defense.

But not anymore.

Now that SJWs have assimilated the franchise, the Jedi have been relegated to space hippies.  The new message in this brave new SJW age, is that Jedi are now peaceniks who don’t fight at all.

Readers of this blog may be familiar with the Twitter ramblings of Jonathan McIntosh, which I’ve written about here.  Jonathan posted:

Luke’s arc in the original trilogy ends with him not only refusing to kill the bad guy, but refusing to even fight a worse villain. This is why Luke’s force projection standoff with Kylo in The Last Jedi is so perfect. It’s the ultimate expression of everything Luke has learned.

— Jonathan McIntosh (@radicalbytes) July 10, 2018

Writer Matt Miller of Esquire wrote in support of Jonathan’s revisionist tweets:

A true hero is one who doesn’t fight at all.

t’s a subversive notion that was lost on many Star Wars fans who believed that he was mercifully sparing Vader’s life from a position of power. It’s funny that fans don’t understand this, because throughout this entire franchise, Jedi have almost annoyingly touted themselves as arbiters of peace. They value non-violence. They’re more monks than soldiers—which is what Luke realized in his final confrontation with Vader and the emperor.

Though McIntosh doesn’t get into it here, this reading of Skywalker’s character tracks with his decision to kill Kylo Ren when he felt him turning to the Dark Side. That, again, was Skywalker realizing he was giving into his fear, and that’s why he changed his mind. When he fled to solitude, that was his ultimate act of pacifism, as was his non-violent confrontation with Ren in the conclusion of the film.

Many people responded to the Esquire article and the absurd premise it presents, and  you can see some of their videos here.

My own response was to correct that awful misunderstanding and revisionism of the Original Trilogy.

Luke avoided fighting Vader, his father.  It wasn’t until Vader realized that Leia was Luke’s twin sister, his daughter, and suggested that perhaps she would turn to the dark side if Luke wouldn’t, that Luke jumped into action and fought Vader.  So in essence Luke was still in keeping with the Jedi code as taught by Yoda, “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.”  Luke was defending his sister.

Luke effectively defeated Vader when he cut off Vader’s hand.  What stopped Luke from vanquishing Vader altogether, was when he looked at Vader’s missing severed hand from which mechanical devices were hanging, then looked at his own mechanical hand, that he realized that were he to vanquish Vader, that he would be going down the same path as his father, down the darkside.  That’s what stopped him.

So yes, Luke did in fact stop short of vanquishing Vader for not wanting to take the same path as his father did, down the road of the Sith.  But at the same time, Luke did in fact use his great Jedi warrior skills in defense rather than attack, as Yoda taught him.

Unfortunately, it appears that the SJW revisionism of the Jedi way as a peacenik space hippie is taking hold in today’s youth.


The results of SJW messaging.

ABC affiliate KMBC News reports that a California fifth grader refused to defend himself, and instead allowed himself to be beaten by a bully.  Because defending himself is “not the Jedi way.”

A California fifth grader ended up in the emergency room after his mother said he was punched in the face by a bully.

“When the day started I said to myself, ‘I have a bad feeling about today,” 10-year-old Aiden Vasquez told KMIR.

Vasquez said the bully first called him a bad name, then took his backpack.

“‘Give me my backpack, give me my backpack,'” he recalled asking the boy. “I went to go get it and then — pop.”

Vasquez ended up in the hospital, suffering from a black eye and a laceration on his eyebrow.

Lizette Casanova, Vasquez’s mother, said the incident makes her furious and emotional. She also said it isn’t the first time her son has been hurt.

“Last year he got a cheek laceration. He got pushed against a wall supposedly and his face got cut open. Last year he got three stitches,” she said.

After the first incident, she took a picture of her son’s injuries and posted it to Facebook, calling out the school for not protecting her child.

The post has been shared almost five 5,000 times. In response to the incident and the social media post, the principal at Two Bunch Palms Elementary sent a letter to parents, saying in part, “There are times when what is posted does not convey the complete story and can cause multiple rumors to circulate.”

But Casanova insists her son’s broken face tells the whole story. She asked her son why he didn’t defend himself when he was punched.

“I told my mom, ‘I got it from Star Wars, that it’s not the Jedi way,’” Aiden said.

Mature adults know, that the only proper way to deal with bullies who pinch you, is to respond by breaking their jaw.  It’s the only way to get bullies to stop.  Otherwise, they’ll continue their bullying if they know that you can’t or won’t do anything about it.  It’s the responsibility of mature adults to pass on this message to youth.  Hence Obi-Wan’s message about Jedi being guardians, and Yoda’s lesson about using the Force for defense.

Specifically because of the entirely incorrect and immoral SJW messaging now in modern Star Wars films, which is also packaged in ancillary “canon” material, and in accompanying media articles, this young boy unfortunately allowed himself to be beaten to the point that he had to be taken to the emergency room.  Had he used the Jedi way for defense as Yoda originally taught, he might have been spared the horrific injuries he incurred, or at least lessened their severity.

The boy is not only a victim of the bully, but also a victim of the SJW messaging in Disney Star Wars.

I shudder to think what the results will be, should this young boy encounter the now emboldened bully again in the near future.

33 thoughts on “The Consequences Of SJW Messaging In Star Wars

  1. I think this man is right that the moment when Luke attacks Vader is a moment of weakness. But not because he fights. Because he is in anger and fear in a dead end(This lead to the Dark Side, to turn into Vader # 2). He understood this and overcame when he threw the saber. This is not a gesture of pacifism, but rather a victory in internal struggle.
    Hell, the Jedi always carry weapons, they can not be against violence in the sense that these people think.
    Moreover they can kill. This is the first thing that Vader does when he returns to the light, kills the Emperor. To protect Luke.
    (I apologize for the bad English)

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    • This man is not right, but is incorrect instead. Watch the scene again.

      Luke stays in hiding underneath a stairwell, and refuses to fight, until very specifically Vader says, “If you will not turn to the dark side, then perhaps she [Leia] will.” That’s when Luke screams, “No!” and then fights. He is very specifically fighting to defend his sister.


      • This scene does not make sense to be considered separately from its context. The whole moment in the throne room is connected with the attempt of the Emperor and Vader to manipulate Luke’s feelings. At the beginning of the film Obi-Wan warns him about it.
        This conflict begins in the Empire, first in a scene in a cave where the hatch of fear cuts off his head, then where he leaves training and spoils it all.
        He must gain control over himself. In the moment where he attacks Vader, he loses control.


        • You would also be entirely incorrect.

          Obi-Wan warned Luke about the temptation to turn to the dark side. However, Luke overcame that temptation. After all, ObiWan also told Luke that he had to kill Vader, to which Like replied, “I can’t kill my own father.” To which Obi-Wan responsed, “Then the Emperor has already won.”

          So while it’s always worthwhile to look for external context to any sequence, it’s even more important to look for information within the sequence itself.

          Luke does not spring into action, until Vader threatens to bring Luke’s sister to the dark side. He didn’t lose control of himself, but rather sprang into action to defend his sister. Defense = the Jedi way. No amount of context, neither internal nor external, changes that.

          SJWs do not take that crucial moment into account, because it demolishes their moronic narrative. But remember, SJW narratives are always consistently universally incorrect.


          • I’m not talking about the personal opinion of Obi-Wan, but that his words are associated with subsequent scenes.The words of the characters serve as stories (if it’s not Rose).
            So you can get to the idea that Anakin in the third episode acts like a Jedi. Why not? He shields Padme from … something.
            The ethics of the Jedi are not utilitarian, the motive is important to them. Not only actions. Luke is afraid for his loved ones and is angry with those who threaten them. On this is built the whole scene in the throne room.
            This can be traced in the dialogue of the characters the whole movie :
            – Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down, Luke. They do you credit, but they could be made to serve the Emperor.
            – Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for… Sister. So, you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her too(…)
            – Good! Your hate has made you powerful.
            In the actor’s game, in the sharp and sweeping battle choreography, this is said in the novelization(from Kahn).
            I’m not saying that he does not need to protect his friends (he does it at the beginning of the film, and does not go to any Dark Side), but he is deprived of this opportunity at that moment. He is trapped on the Death Star, the Emperor is stronger than him. Maybe the moon will explode in a minute, or the Death Star . He does not know what will happen next. He can not control anything there but himself. He has a choice, emotions or ideals.
            What does SJW have to do with this? This is closer to Stoic ideas than to them.


  2. Small correction: Luke fighting Vader in and on itself is not wrong. But when Luke gives into his hate and anger (emotions that he should control, as a Jedi that he is) after Vader’s threat to Leia, he’s not following the Jedi way.

    Luke gave himself up to Vader on Endor to save his father, not to play the Emperor’s game of who gets to be his apprentice. And when he was about to strike a defenseless Vader, he realized that he was doing just that. That’s why he throws his saber away. To show the Emperor (someone he knows he can’t defeat by himself) that he’s not going to play his game and fall to the dark side. He’d rather die as a Jedi than live as a Sith.

    Of course, the SJW agenda takes that very clear (and inspiring) message and in one of their recent efforts to corrupt someone else’s work and ideas, wants to pretend that the scene means that Jedi shouldn’t fight at all, or have weapons to begin with. Then again, these are the same people that IRL defend evil or want it to prevail…


    • Luke is in fact following the Jedi way, because he is fighting specifically to defend his sister.

      Remember, “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and DEFENSE, never for attack.”


      • No, he’s letting fear and anger dictate his actions, which is the opposite of the Jedi way. He’s falling in Vader’s trap. That’s why he taunts him to begin with. This point is repeated in Revenge of the Sith, when Dooku/Tyranus taunts Anakin so that he gives in to the dark side.

        And yes, a Jedi does use the Force for knowledge and defense. That’s not what I’m arguing.


        • You are of course entirely incorrect.

          If Luke let fear and anger dictate his actions, he would not have refused to fight Vader at all. Furthermore, he wouldn’t have stopped the attack, after he had his epiphany. Had Luke let fear and anger dictate his actions, he would have continued the attack and slayed his father.

          Luke only, emerged from hiding, after Vader mentioned his sister. Had Vader not mentioned his sister, Luke would likely have continued hiding.

          The mentioning of Luke’s sister is the key element that discredits this SJW narrative.

          The sequence in ROTS is irrelevant to this conversation, because the sequences rhyme, they’re not mimeographed copies. After all, Anakin turns to the darkside, whereas Luke does not.

          So again, re-watching the sequence will be necessary to understand the reality of this.


          • Seriously…?!

            The sequence in ROTS is not irrelevant. It’s a reiteration of the point made in ROTJ. Anakin, like Luke, let his fear and anger dictate his actions after being taunted by a Sith Lord. Except unlike Anakin, Luke realized the mistake he was making before it was too late. Anakin killed a defenseless man after he had been beaten. Luke didn’t. He stopped when he realized what he was doing.

            And Luke did let fear and anger dictate his actions right after Vader taunted him with Leia. Just like Anakin in ROTS. Seriously, this is made plainly obvious. There’s no subjectivity to what’s happening in that scene. Palpatine says so himself right there:

            “Good! Your hate has made you powerful. Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father’s place at my side.”

            And in both movies, what a Jedi should and shouldn’t do is made obvious too:

            “But he was an unarmed prisoner. I shouldn’t have done that. It’s not the Jedi way.”

            “Never. I’ll never turn to the dark side. You’ve failed, your Highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

            In any case, none of this supports the notion that the Jedi shouldn’t fight at all, which is what the SJW are advocating (in their perverted agenda). A Jedi should fight. A Jedi does fight. They fight to protect. At least in the original six movies they do. Even in the Clone Wars, they are fighting to protect the Republic. And in all six movies, their fight is contrasted with the Sith, who fight to attack. To gain power. To spread chaos. That’s not the case anymore with Lucas gone and the SJWs in charge.


      • He’s fighting out of anger. If he was fighting ONLY to defend his sister, he wouldn’t have attacked so angrily and violently and he wouldn’t have lost complete control of himself and sliced off Vader’s had in clear and obvious rage. That is not the Jedi way, not matter how hard you try to spin it.


        • If he was fighting out of anger, then he would have fought at any given moment, rather than specifically choosing to fight only after Vader threatened to bring his sister to the dark side.

          Fighting to defend his sister is the Jedi way, just as Yoda had taught him.

          That’s not spin. It’s simply how the movie plays out.

          Rather than commenting based on faulty memory alone, I highly suggest rewatching the sequence so that you can understand this better.


          • I understand that scene far better than you think you walking pile of pig-shit! What set off his rage is fucking irrelevant. It means NOTHING! Fighting out of rage is not the Jedi way, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHATSOEVER!!!!! He may have been ‘defending’, but he was also losing his self-control and gave into his negative emotions and almost fell to the darkside as a result. Not negotiable, not debatable, not open for discussion, end of story.


            • Apparently you don’t.

              Why are you capitalizing entire words like some kind of crank?

              Forget that sequence for a moment. Let’s turn to the 1st Act where Luke rescues Han from Jabba on Tattooine.

              Luke is on the desert skiff swinging his lightsaber, slaying Weequay and Nikto and Barada and Klaatu, and throwing some of them over the edge into the mouth of the Sarlacc.

              Did Luke just lose his self-control there too? Or was he fighting to defend and free his friend Han Solo?


  3. Quick question on the poor kid at the end here- did I miss where it is specified that the modern Disney film(s) (and not, dare I say it, perhaps the Originals or Prequels?) are what misinformed him of the true meaning of The Jedi Way?

    As a fan of the Saga I’d rather believe it was the work of the modern films but I’m also unwilling to assume as much unless confirmed.

    Though it is kinda sad, it wouldn’t surprise me if this already incompetent school ended up blaming the victim for defending himself against the bullies. Its really messed up of course, but so are many things these days, especially SJW influenced.

    (With Respect.)


  4. In genuine Star Wars, the Jedi actively engaged in battle. As Obi-Wan Kenobi explained to Luke:
    > “For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times. Before the Empire.”
    Thinking people understand, that guardians…guard. A guardian can’t very well guard without getting involved in a tumble or two.
    Yoda taught Luke,
    > “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.”
    So a Jedi does in fact engage in violence, for the purposes of defense.
    But not anymore.

    Yes, but what of it? You don’t have much of a oint here.
    In pre-Disney lore the Jedi as a warrior-monk order moved all the way from the core of organized resistance against the Sith (the real thing, not the emo kids who learned a neat trick and decided they are totally ubermenschen now) to a bunch of mind-controlling assassins protecting corrupt Republic as a vehicle of their complacency, while self-righteously seeing themselves above the law of said Republic (which is what killed them, mostly), detached from real people and too stupid to consider how to optimally use their abilities (the Clone Wars).
    Philosohies change with conditions, or just over time. After the only Jedi left were those in hiding, this had to change something too.

    That the ways Disney “authors” chose to move things was consistently idiotic is another issue entirely.


    • The point is that while others claim Jedis to be peacenik space hippies who never resorted to violence, in fact the Jedis did use violence for the purposes of defense, as taught by Yoda.


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  7. Regarding the overall point, you’ve got some valid points in there, Itchy. However, Lucas did unfortunately envision them as pacifists who shouldn’t resort to any violence at all, despite the whole “a Jedi uses his skills for knowledge and defense, never for attack”, and ROTJ even implied that Luke even reacting in anger at all to Vader’s threat, even if it was technically out of defense for another, had him coming close to entering the Dark Side. Ben Shapiro even made that much very clear, and not only is he a pretty big Conservative (even if somewhat anti-Trump) and certainly no SJW, but he’s also a Star Wars fan (big enough of one that he actually named his daughter after Princess Leia), and even indicated that the Force was “stupid and amoral” for what you ask me is actually some pretty dang good reasons:

    Not to mention the Jedi refused to get involved in actually QUELLING a very obvious threat to a defenseless planet, at most getting the Queen to escape, to say little about their reluctance to participate in the Clone Wars due to them “not being warriors”. One of the EU stuff involving the disbandment of the Army of Light even had the Jedi Order shunning the Army of Light the same way the Vietnam Veterans were shunned by the anti-war left.


      • I know defense is still an act of violence, not denying such was the case (heck, if anything, I indicated you had a valid point by saying defense still requires violence). Unfortunately, the Emperor’s congratulating Luke in disarming Vader with “Your hate makes you powerful” as well as Luke’s reaction afterward nonetheless made it sound as though Luke even by acting in defense for his sister STILL violated the Jedi code by turning to the Dark Side by acting violently at all. Ben Shapiro in that link I gave even spelled it out pretty bluntly (and he’s no SJW, he’s conservative). And bear in mind, this was WELL before Disney’s acquisition of the franchise.

        And besides, him discarding the lightsaber and not even relying on it to defend himself from the Emperor’s lightning blasts still came across as promoting the pacifist methods. At the very least, he could have kept the Lightsaber on him so that if Palpatine does zap him, he’ll have an even chance at actually defending himself. The novelization at least had him trying and succeeding temporarily in stopping the lightning blasts with his hands.


      • Just stating what Ben Shapiro said. You think it’s incorrect, I suggest you take it up with him. And in any case, he indicated it was feelings-centered and morality-free which does actually mean “amoral” (immoral means you merely have bad morals, while amoral means you lack a moral code at all, at least, not consistent morals).


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