How Will Marvel Shutting Down Affect Star Wars Comic Books?

The news came in this weekend that Disney could be shutting down Marvel Comics.

Bleeding Cool reports:

Marvel Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski and Chief Creative Officer Joe Quesada are heading to Austin, Texas for the South by Southwest festival next week, and they plan to host a panel which will show how all of the success Marvel has had in markets far more lucrative than comics — movies, TV shows, video games — ultimately stem from the ideas that originated in the less lucrative comics.

This might seem like a common sense argument to make, but maybe it’s one that’s necessary. As we saw in Brian Hibbs‘ recent takedown of Big Comics, the business of actually selling comics could be in peril. Hibbs noted:

National sales are very poor – there are comics in the national top 100 that aren’t even selling twenty thousand copies. A significant number of stores have closed — perhaps as many as 10% of outlets.

And as Hibbs went on to illustrate, publishers’ strategy to make profits seem to rely not on increasing readership, but from bilking more and more money from the existing (and dwindling) readership:

Want a clear and current example of Marvel’s preposterous “flood the zone” strategy? “War of the Realms” is supposed to be their major Q2 project in 2019, but in the first month alone they’re asking us to buy into TWO issues of the series being released with no sales data, as well as FOUR different tie-in-mini-series. All six of these comics (which are built around a six issue storyline) will require final orders from us before we’ve sold a single comic to an actual reader. Is there anyone in this room thinks that this is good? That this is sustainable? That this will sell more comics to more readers? That this will sell any copies to people who aren’t already on board Marvel’s periodicals already?

I say to you: we do not need plans or programs that are aimed at selling more comics to the same customers – they really can’t afford and don’t want any more titles to buy – our focus as an industry should be on making our periodical releases more attractive to more new readers, and to grow our base, not simply exploit the existing one.

If less people are buying comics and the direct market is on the verge of collapse, then why should a megacorp like Disney continue to bother publishing them at all, especially when they can make far more money mining the intellectual properties for other mediums? Well, perhaps that’s why Quesada and Cebulski plan to make the case that none of those things would be possible without the comics. Therefore, comics must continue to be published even if they add little value to the budget on their own simply because they provide the genetic material to make actual profits elsewhere.

Cosmic Book News reports:

DISNEY SHUTTING DOWN MARVEL COMICS?

The comic book industry is presently said to be in a state of collapse, and following the recent news of troubles within DC Comics, now it is being speculated Disney may actually be considering shutting down Marvel Comics.

Speculation about problems within Marvel Comics comes from a press release issued by the company where Marvel Comics Chief Creative Officer Joe Quesada and Editor-In-Chief C.B. Cebulski are attending the upcoming SXSW where the pair will be hosting a panel and putting it forth how Marvel Comics is responsible for the success in other markets, such as film, TV, video games and merchandise.

“Titled ‘Marvel: From Comics To Screens,’ the hour-long panel will look at how some of Marvel’s most iconic characters and storylines have contributed to the games, movies, and television series that are so renowned among popular culture. Everything starts with an idea – and Marvel Comics is the spark that lights the fire!” the press release states in part.

Bleeding Cool actually puts it forth the reason Quesada and Cebulski are doing the panel is, in essence, to save Marvel Comics, as sales have been dwindling for years and they need to convince Disney that publishing Marvel comic books – even though they are losing money – is still a good idea because it is the inspiration for markets that do make money, such as Kevin Feige’s insanely popular MCU.

While it is currently just speculation that Disney would shut down Marvel Comics, worth a mention is that it could be possible one day Disney decides to simply license out the characters and stop publishing altogether. Disney CEO Bob Iger, in an investors call, recently said the company isn’t going to bother producing video games in-house because they feel it isn’t worth it. Perhaps that could be the fate of the Marvel comic book industry?

So how did we get here?  And is it really possible that Disney would shut down Marvel comics?

The rest of Marvel comics is its own animal, so I’ll focus on Star Wars comics under Marvel specifically, which I’ve been writing about on this blog.

We know that the sales of Marvel’s Star Wars comics has been diminishing for some time just as the rest of their titles have, thanks in large part to a woker than woke political agenda among other factors.

First, let’s look at the issue of free falling sales.  Cosmic Book News reported:

Sales for Star Wars and Marvel Comics-related products are down for Disney’s fiscal year ending September 29, 2018 compared to the previous year and even more so compared to two years ago.

As part of an SEC filing, Disney released its “Fiscal Year 2018 Annual Financial Report” offering numbers and insights for their Consumer Products & Interactive Media division, which also includes Publishing.

Revenue for the division is down 4% from 2018 to 2017, and down almost 16% from 2018 to 2016. Profits for the two year period are also down nearly 17%. Disney’s Consumer Products division is also the only division at Disney to have lost revenue in 2018.

Also, a KiwiFarms user commented:

According to Comichron, Marvel Star Wars comic sales were very high when first released with TFA, but ever since have been in a horrible decline much like everything else. The main Star Wars comics and the 2015 print of Darth Vader had insane sales and were the best they had initially, with the first issue of SW #1 getting over a million and being #1 on Marvel sales for quite a time if I recall (these were the same issues that had Luke fight a spider hutt which I talked about many pages back). However the current Vader comics that started in 2017 after the 2015 run finished are nowhere near as high as the 2015 version, which made more than double what Dragon Ball Vader is making now, however its sales are consistent. Not great, but consistent. The main SW comics though are in complete shit right now and are dropping fast, with Darth Vader (2017) surpassing it easily. It doesn’t help that aside from the shit stories, the main SW comics no longer have decent art as I’ve shown in this thread before. More recent sales shows things to be even worse with the horribly declining art and story quality while people are creaming their pants over Vader, including some people who say they don’t like Disney.

 

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So how did Star Wars comic book sales fall so far, so fast?  Poor quality in the material being produced.  As the KiwiFarms writer above noted, poor artwork is one of the  reasons.  Here’s some of examples:

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This is not exactly awe inspiring artwork.

Then there has been the matter of using the comic books to explain plot holes in the feature films, rather than using them to tell original stories.  For some reason, the writers of the comic books became obsessed with Poe’s jacket for a period of time.

Rather than discussing what’s next, the trio talk about how this all got started, with Rey taking down Finn after believing he had stolen the jacket he was wearing.

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Beyond Poe’s jacket, there’s not much here.

It seemed that the Lucasfilm Story Group, was making Poe’s jacket almost a character unto itself.

According to Sara Moran from ScreenRant, one issue of the Poe Dameron comic book let fans know the real reason that Poe let Finn keep his jacket.

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It didn’t eject because the screenwriters of TFA didn’t think about ejection seats when they wrote the screenplay.

In his telling of this tale, Poe reveals it was him who triggered Finn’s ejector seat in the TIE (something Finn thought had happened automatically) but when he tried to eject himself, his jacket was jamming the mechanism.

Poe curses the “blasted jacket,” explaining that because of its role in nearly killing him, he was perfectly happy with Finn becoming its new owner.

Stories about Poe’s jacket might be interesting to over obsessive mothers, but it hardly qualifies as high adventure.

Then the question of how Rey bested Luke during their lightsaber duel in The Last Jedi duel had to be addressed.  So they came up with a comic book explanation.

In the film sequence, Luke pulls Rey’s staff from her hands before she Force-grabs his lightsaber and he falls to his back, using the Force to catch himself before he completely hits the ground. In the comic book, there is one small panel which clearly shows how this came to be.

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There you have it “Mary Sue” fans. According to artist Michael Walsh and writer Gary Whitta, it’s a minor slip that causes Luke Skywalker to end up on his back and not the all powerful Rey.

But poor artwork and boring plot hole explanations could be forgiven, if the larger stories are well written.  They aren’t, thanks to wacko SJW politics being inserted into the comics and imposed onto the reader.  This is really the primary problem.  When normal people feel they’re being politically propagandized, they naturally flee.

There was the example of Cadet Solo being barked at by a shrieking harridan on the cover of one issue:

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Starwars.com described the fantasy that feminists have had regarding Han Solo for 40 years:

Judging by the scenes that bookend Han Solo: Imperial Cadet #1, everyone’s favorite Corellian might be able to offer up an rationalization for every scrap of trouble he finds himself in — “I can explain” — but more often than not, the person in authority doesn’t buy it. You can see how that might be a bit of a problem for Han Solo.

There may even be an inverted NPC allegory in that particular issue:

The mental games are almost as bad as the physical trials at the Carida Academy. Each cadet is stripped of his or her name, given an operating number, and must do well enough in training to earn the “right” to their name back. Any time Han tries to insist on being referred to like an actual person, he’s punished.

Starwars.com couldn’t help but take a swipe at the U.S. Armed Forces, in their deeply stupid attempt to equate the men and women in uniform with the evil Empire.

After all, the Empire’s Commission for the Preservation of the New Order had an excellent propaganda division that made becoming a stormtrooper or a TIE pilot seem like it was the right thing to do — and even a little glamorous. “Explore new worlds! Learn valuable skills!” the advertisements promised, stretching and coaching the truth in the best way possible.

Another such feminist empowerment fantasy came in the form of Leia giving Han a round house punch:

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Feminist Marvel writers imagine that this silliness represents female empowerment.

Here’s the description from starwars.com:

As revealed earlier this week on The Star Wars Show, a beautiful new tribute to our favorite scoundrel, Star Wars Icons: Han Solo by Gina McIntyre, is coming November 13. Published in the US by Insight Editions and in the UK by Ilex, the tome covers Han’s entire journey in great detail; complemented with arresting imagery and photos, McIntyre charts the character’s history from George Lucas’s first explorations in the mid-’70s to Harrison Ford’s performance in the original trilogy and The Force Awakens, up to the high-adventure and personal origin tale in Solo: A Star Wars Story. It delves into his role in novels, comics, and video games, and features exclusive new interviews with Harrison Ford, Alden Ehrenreich, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, Peter Mayhew, Ron Howard, J.J. Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, Jonathan Kasdan, and more.

This was in keeping with the new spirit of misandry in Disney Star Wars, which also saw Leia slap Luke Skywalker in the face, and kick Chewbacca in the balls in the online animated series, Galaxy of Adventures.

Other issues of the comic book transformed Han Solo from a man who didn’t trust anyone except his wookiee co-pilot, to a dunderhead that would leave his beloved ship in the care of a parking valet whom he had just met.

Many fans of The Force Awakens wondered how Han could have lost the Millenium Falcon.  One might think that either Han loved the ship so much that it would never leave his hands, or that he might have owned several ships over his lifetime just as people own many cars.

Well a page from a recent comic book helped explain that matter, in typical Disney fashion.  In genuine canon, Han Solo is a cynic who doesn’t trust anyone except Chewbacca, and then only because Chewie owes him a life debt.  But in DisCanon, Han mindlessly hands over the Falcon to a valet, who steals it and flies away.

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You can see the full size pic here.

But even worse than the lackluster material, were the antics coming from the comic book “creators.”  Many of these antics found their way into the news.

The following story occurred back in December of 2017, when The Last Jedi was still in theaters.

The debate over the blatant stupidity of the Rose Tico character was heating up back then.  The Real Comic Book Gamer articulated an effective argument against a comment made by intellectual void Heather Antos, in which she stated that Rose Tico was greater than Boba Fett.  Adult Marvel editors responded with adolescent hyperbole.

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Douglas Ernst would later comment on the silliness of the Marvel editors later in January of 2018, and on the human claxonGeekGirlDiva:

The most famous incident came in October of 2018, when unhinged crank Chuck Wendig announced on Twitter that he had been fired from Marvel, for his notorious inability to control his own online behavior.

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Not a happy camper.

Hollywood Reporter wrote:

Chuck Wendig, the New York Times best-selling author of the Star Wars: Aftermath series of novels, has been fired by Marvel Entertainment, he said on Twitter Friday. That leaves the future of numerous previously announced Star Wars projects, that Wendig was attached to, uncertain as a result.

In a series of tweets, Wendig — who was working on both the five-issue Shadow of Vader miniseries and an additional, currently unannounced, Star Wars series for the publisher — revealed that he had been fired by Marvel in the middle of his work on the titles because, in his words, “of the negativity and vulgarity that my tweets bring. Seriously, that’s what Mark [Paniccia], the editor said. It was too much vulgarity, too much negativity on my part.”

Bounding Into Comics wrote:

Star Wars novelist and comic book writer Chuck Wendig announced that Marvel fired him after they just announced he would be writing the Shadow of Vader series.

Then there was also Marvel writer Bryan Young.

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Keep your clothes on, Bryan.

Bryan Young was discovered to have engaged in an online sex chat with underaged teenagers, and was caught lying about various YouTube personalities in articles he had written for SyFy Wire.

Fans also had Lucasfilm personalities like Joe Quinones, and Geek Girl Diva, and Chuck Wendig, lecturing customers about how they aren’t customers.

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The perp matches Ethan Van Sciver’s composite sketch.

Joe concocted some very strict guidelines for people who seek the privilege of purchasing his art:

It’s culturally responsible to make certain that the female gender is equally represented.  Enter Shana O’Neil, Geek Girl Diva, who writes for starwars.com.

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Like Rey, she likely has no training with a lightsaber.

She too believes that the customer is not a customer.

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Bill forgot his “Fanboy Tears” mug at home.

There was also Star Wars Marvel artist Bill Sienkiewicz, who had drawn GOP personalities against bullseyes, and then publicly lied about having done it.

Comic book artist Jon Malin posted on Twitter:

To which Bill Sienkiewicz replied:

But a 10 second Google search easily turned up multiple articles published in 2017 which detail Bill’s artwork.

Comics artist Bill Sienkiewicz saves us the trouble of wondering if he’s calling for violence. While he caricaturizes those he is frustrated with this year against the backdrop of a shooting target, he also helpfully labels the collection with text: The Most Punchable Faces of 2017. Among the pictures he’s tweeted on social media are FOX News pundits Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, and FCC Chairman Ajit Pai.

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At one point, calls for unionizing the comic book industry may have caught the eyes of Disney CEOs.  The Daily Beast wrote:

Behind the veil of billion-dollar movie franchises and rotating comics series, creators often struggle with low pay, no labor protections, and harassment. And no one seems to care.

The first comics came out of the fly-by-night pulps, where contracts were vague, dirty dealing was standard, and the notion of creator rights was nonexistent. The mistreatment and neglect of Superman creators Siegel and Schuster is an industry legend; as is the double-dealing of Batman “creator” Bob Kane; Jack Kirby’s struggle for his original artwork and equal credit for his work with Stan Lee; and Alan Moore being screwed out of the rights for Watchmen. Attempts at collective bargaining in the industry seldom got far. In 1968, a group of veteran DC writers pushed for pensions and insurance and were summarily purged, while a unionization attempt by artist Neal Adams ten years later failed to get off the ground.

Last month, novelist Chuck Wendig—the bestselling author of the licensed Star Wars novel Aftermath and its sequels—stood before a crowd at New York Comic Con and announced he’d be working on Shadow of Vader, a miniseries for Marvel Comics. A week later, on October 12, Wendig made another announcement: he’d been fired. The reason given, Wendig wrote on his personal website, was “the negativity and vulgarity that my tweets bring. Seriously, that’s what Mark, the editor said… It was too much politics, too much vulgarity, too much negativity on my part.”

While Marvel had no official comment, a source close to the company said that the decision to fire him was made by Marvel editorial, and that the decision to drop Wendig was made solely on the basis of his public comments. Nonetheless, the decision provoked an outcry on social media. Many drew comparisons to other public figures targeted by harassment campaigns, such as Disney’s firing of Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn and the ginned-up outrage around MSNBC commentator Sam Seder, who was fired then re-hired over an eight-year-old tweet.

“There’s no balance between the interests of comics publishing employees and freelancers with those of publishers. The power dynamic is just completely one-sided,” Edidin says. “There’s really no one to advocate for comics creators in situations like this.”

While you occasionally see people like Chelsea Cain or Chuck Wendig speaking up, they’re only in a position to do so because they largely make their living outside of comics, and thus don’t need to play by the industry’s rules if they don’t want to. Without job security or health benefits, freelancers are a single ill-judged tweet and a run of bad luck away from needing the help of the Hero Initiative. Under circumstances like that, a vague social media policy isn’t just a headache: it’s one more trap in a deeply financially insecure profession.

“I am just amazed that some lawyer or some union hasn’t come in, ’cause it’s crazy.” Caine told The Daily Beast in September. “And they’re all such adorable comic geeks and have all been doing this since they were 17 and they’ve never had any other kind of job. And I think they really don’t realize how insane it is.”

Things are so desperate now, that Marvel will be pulling a stunt by publishing issue #108 in the original Expanded Universe Marvel run, in an effort to woo older fans who have left the franchise and have ceased purchasing comic books.

As comibcook.com reported:

After waiting patiently for 33 years, the original Star Wars comic series is getting a new issue, with Marvel Comics releasing the Star Wars #108 one-shot. Get the first details on the exciting comic below before it hits shelves on May 29th.

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Three cheers for Jaxxon after a 33 year wait.

Yet after all of these pervasive problems, some still doubt that Disney will ever shut down Marvel comics, and are skeptical that the comic book industry is in trouble at all.

In the Bleeding Cool article mentioned above, the following statements are made in the comments section:

I just think you’re being paranoid. Disney is known to make questionable decisions in the past, but I highly doubt they’d shutdown the wellspring from which some of their most profitable brands are birthed from.

True. if anything, they would most likely simply change the way the comics division sells their products as a whole than outright shutting them down. Though if that doesn’t occur, then shutting down and licencing the characters to other comic publishers would be an alternative (Though an unfavorable one for the studio).

In the Cosmic Books News article mentioned above, the following statements are made in the comments section:

I realize all of this sensational doom and gloom gets you clicks (but no ad revenue from me, thanks to an ad blocker), but it’s utter nonsense.

I actually have friends in the industry. Comic books aren’t going anywhere. Will they have to revisit their business model? Maybe. But even if they went completely digital (i.e. comixology) and thus eliminated publishing costs, there would still be plenty of interest and plenty of sales.

Just like any major business, they’re having a rough patch. They will persevere. Marvel Comics will be here long after your forgettable articles have been forgotten.

THANK YOU! I’m sick and tired of articles like this! I’ll admit, Disney has made mistakes in the past. But the idea of them shutting down the wellspring from which one of their most profitable brands was birthed from and have some other comics company make Marvel comics for them is outright ludicrous. That’s like saying they want DreamWorks to make Pixar movies.

It baffles me to see a comics fan (I suppose you are since you are here) whine about “social justice warriors” which is basically what ALL super-heroes are. Especially considering many of the classic characters were created by Jewish people at a time when people of their faith were being slaughtered by a madman overseas! Jerry Seigle, Joe Schuster, Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Joe Kubert, and Will Eisner, just to name a few! The artist who drew Phantom Lady for Fox happened to be black, he turned to comics because few other industries would consider hiring a black man. There were a few women who drew for comics for the same reason. And the artist who created the Green Turtle was Asian. And it was no different in the classics from the silver age when artists and writers were creating socially relevant comics, hoping to teach children about fairness and equality. Green Lantern/Green Arrow was an award winning series and deservedly so. When Marvel created the Black Panther, Luke Cage, Red Wolf, White Tiger, the Falcon, and made the X-Men diverse with mutants from all over the world, was that just SJW to you? Even Superman’s slogan was, “Truth, Justice, and the American Way!” Put your tiki torch down and wake up before it’s too late. Or the next madman you help put into power may decide to pick on a group you belong to next.

Is this article for real? Joe Quesada is on a quick panel about how comic characters have transcended the medium and what you took from that is Marvel might shut down publishing? Seriously? I’m pretty sure crackheads make better leaps in logic than this.

I normally don’t comment on articles. But, this has to be one of the most click bait articles I have ever had the displeasure of reading. You are a news site you are meant to inform the comic book community. Instead you make articles like this telling fans that a company they have supported is going under without hard facts or evidence. Stop calling yourself news its insulting to actual informative content.

Indeed, as per Phase 15 of the Geeker Gate, many SJWs commonly claim that their particular psychotic brand of politics has always been in comic books from the very beginning, and therefore cannot be the reason that sales are taking a deep dive, despite the universal #GetWokeGoBroke mandate.

Joe Quesada, Chief Creative Officer of Marvel Entertainment, and Executive Producer of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD & Agent Carter, spent one weekend going on an extended lunatic Twitter rant.  Back in September 2018, Joe started off by posting the following images which were published by Marvel Comics back in the 1970s.

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But a fan later posted another image from Marvel Comics from the same era in response:

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I’ve yet to read any SJW directly address The Marvel Reader’s Bill Of Rights.

Amusingly, Gail Simone who began her career with Marvel, recently took to Twitter to brag about taking over the comic book industry:

Is she accepting responsibility for this devastation and coming ruination of the comic book industry?  Probably not.  She likely still doesn’t believe its going to happen at all.

Many SJWs feel that Marvel creators are far too special to ever be replaced.  Though the quality of their modern work demonstrates otherwise.  And at the end of the day, everyone is replaceable.

But others have suggested that Disney could easily close Marvel Comics, and license its characters to other independent companies such as IDW.  In fact, they’re already doing just that right now.  Below is an IDW rendition of Rose Tico:

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Not so rosey.

In fact several Star Wars titles are currently being published by IDW including, Tales From Vader’s Castle, Forces of Destiny, Star Wars Adventures, graphic novel adaptations of some of the feature films, and reprints of the old classic newspaper strips.

I’m not intimately familiar with the comic book publishing industry.  But I doubt that Disney would announce the closure of Marvel comics, until it had transferred a significant number of titles into the care of independent publishers such as IDW.  Though that shouldn’t give consumers much more confidence, given that I’ve read how IDW is just as SJW as Marvel, if not more so.

Perhaps one day, Disney will consider transferring Star Wars comic book titles to independent #ComicsGate artists.  But that is pure speculation at this point in time.

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Without a hat or scarf, she’ll freeze before her Taun-Taun hits the first marker.

So you’ve got quickly diminishing comic book sales resulting from substandard artwork, dull characters and boring storylines, SJW politics and militant feminism, a trashing of legacy characters and a severe misunderstanding of the universe in which they live, distortion of the source mythology, awful misbehavior coming from creators who routinely insult fans and customers, creator delusions of grandeur that foster misguided attitudes of irreplaceability, cheap tricks with variant covers, numbering, and relaunches, declining market value and collectibility, and a terrible relationship with retailers whom they take advantage of.

Why would anyone want to buy these things from DC and Marvel anymore?  Or indeed, even from IDW?

World Class Bullshitters commented on this situation 1 year ago:

Clownfish TV commented on this possibility 7 months ago:

And 1 month ago:

Comics MATTER w/Ya Boi Zack commented on this possibility 2 months ago:

Nerdrotic comments:

Micah Curtis comments:

Ethan Van Sciver comments:

Comics MATTER w/Ya Boi Zack comments:

Clownfish TV comments on this situation, and apparently, he has worked for Disney comics:

Comics MATTER w/Ya Boi Zack comments again:

15 thoughts on “How Will Marvel Shutting Down Affect Star Wars Comic Books?

  1. Man, that photo of Simone threw me. Just oozes smugness, unaccountability and immaturity. She is the Human Resources Dept official that for some reason decided to go into the creative side of the company, even though her entire training and experience is one of limiting true artistic expression.

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  2. New fans:
    -Respect artistic integrity
    -Realize not all art is to be catered to their interest
    -Believe it is inherently impossible to know the true direction a creative work, given they are not the creator of that work.
    -Respects and is unthreatened by women and people of color
    -Is unafraid of and welcomes growth
    -Delights in their preconceptions being challenged
    -Is not insufferable

    New contributors/contributions TO A SAGA:
    -Respect artistic integrity of those before you
    -Realize that not all art is good and then therefore worthy of critical analysis
    -Understands that it is adding to an existing body of work which has an internal harmony to it and discord harms that body and its value.
    -Is unafraid of and welcomes constructive criticism
    -Understands and respects the Chekhov’s Gun principle
    -Does not surreptitiously copy another artist’s work without adding significant innovation and value to the original work
    -Takes responsibility for failures
    -Is not passive-aggressive
    -Is not arrogant

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    • ALL fans:
      -understands what “equal” means
      -understands what “proportional” means
      -understands what “courage” means
      -understands what “nuance” means
      -understands the correlation between “action” and “consequence”
      -understands what “fact” is
      -understands that wherever there is truth, there is someone hurt by it and is a fact of life.
      -understands that even if you are told something is true, it does not automatically mean it is true. (see fact above)
      -understands that “opinion” requires introspection and isn’t just copying someone else’s at face value
      -understands that “criticism” and “harassment” are defined very differently and what those definitions are.
      -understands what function a “customer” provides
      -understands there is room for improvement in every situation
      -understands that just because two people have a common goal, doesn’t automatically make them friends.
      -understands what a “retraction” is and why it is important
      -understands what a “conflict of interest” is
      -understands what “ethics” are and why they are important
      -understands that “respect” is something which is earned and given, rather than demanded and taken.
      -understands what “trust” is and why it is important
      -understands that one bad apple does not automatically make all apples bad.
      -understands what “fun” is.

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  3. Wow, get woke go broke. So Disney would rather shut down Marvel comics than do a Thanos style SJW purge. Comics will survive. There is a market for comics, but in the short term a lot of comics shops are going to go out of business. This is sad.

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  4. Interesting article Itchy. My first thought when checking out EVS’s video on a possible Marvel shut down was that it was overblown hyperbole. Operating Marvel at a loss costs Disney less money than Iger’s travel budget. But you bring up an interesting point, the Marvel decline is a PR disaster for Disney and is undoubtedly costing them present and future customers. It is subsequently damaging the most valuable part of Marvel, the monetary value of the franchise character intellectual properties. If they want to continue turning the MCU money crank it would behoove them to just stop publishing the comics and reduce the options for comics fans to only seeing the characters in Disney movies. Alternately, the MCU is winding down and an option for Disney is to cut and run. Disney paid $4 billion for Marvel and at this point they won’t get anywhere near that price when/if they sell it.

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    • I’ve read the loss leader argument many times before, and it seemed to make sense in many cases.

      But when you’re a corporation the size of Disney, why would you want to bother with it at all, especially if sales are declining.

      The latest Clownfish video on the matter which I now have embedded is really interesting. He claims to have worked for Disney comics, and says things are going to move in this direction fairly confidently.

      He also talks about how the Chuck Wendig situation was a serious problem for Disney publishing.

      As far as the wellspring from which to draw talent. I keep reading that, but I’m not sure I’m buying it. Nearly everything coming out of #ComicsGate is vastly superior in terms of art quality than what I’m seeing being published today at Marvel.

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  5. Gail Simone is such a delusional asshat, that she won’t expect the fact that she, Mark Waid, Bill Sienkiewicz and Joe Quesada are slowly destroying Marvel Comics with their socialist propaganda. You know the old saying goes: Get Woke Go Broke!

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