George Lucas Is Fandom Menace

That’s right George Lucas thinks Disney Star Wars Is Dumb too.

'Star Wars: the Force Awakens' - 16 Dec 2015

“He’s got all the ideas.” ~JJ Abrams

According to this Reddit post:

Bob released his book “The Ride of a Lifetime: LESSONS LEARNED FROM 15 YEARS AS CEO OF THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY” today and within it he openly discusses the difficult process of securing the massive acquisition deals of Pixar, Marvel, and of course Lucasfilm. He does not hold back at all and is very open about conflicts like Feige v Perlmutter, firing his ex-Film Studio Chief, the inner-workings of each deal and the relevant part for this sub, George Lucas’ involvement in the Force Awakens. It’s a very thorough look tbh and I do recommend people purchase it (ebook is $15) if they want all the details, especially about how Iger and Lucas formulated the sale.

On George sending his outlines for the Sequel Trilogy:

At some point in the process, George told me that he had completed outlines for three new movies. He agreed to send us three copies of the outlines: one for me; one for Alan Braverman; and one for Alan Horn, who’d just been hired to run our studio. Alan Horn and I read George’s outlines and decided we needed to buy them, though we made clear in the purchase agreement that we would not be contractually obligated to adhere to the plot lines he’d laid out.

On George’s new role of creative authority:

He knew that I was going to stand firm on the question of creative control, but it wasn’t an easy thing for him to accept. And so he reluctantly agreed to be available to consult with us at our request. I promised that we would be open to his ideas (this was not a hard promise to make; of course we would be open to George Lucas’s ideas), but like the outlines, we would be under no obligation.

On revealing to George they weren’t following his plot outlines:

Early on, Kathy brought J.J. and Michael Arndt up to Northern California to meet with George at his ranch and talk about their ideas for the film. George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations.

On George seeing the Force Awakens for the first time:

Just prior to the global release, Kathy screened The Force Awakens for George. He didn’t hide his disappointment. “There’s nothing new,” he said. In each of the films in the original trilogy, it was important to him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters, and new technologies. In this one, he said, “There weren’t enough visual or technical leaps forward.” He wasn’t wrong, but he also wasn’t appreciating the pressure we were under to give ardent fans a film that felt quintessentially Star Wars. We’d intentionally created a world that was visually and tonally connected to the earlier films, to not stray too far from what people loved and expected, and George was criticizing us for the very thing we were trying to do. Looking back with the perspective of several years and a few more Star Wars films, I believe J.J. achieved the near-impossible, creating a perfect bridge between what had been and what was to come.

Suddenly, the “white slavers” comment becomes crystal clear.  SJWs will argue that George said The Last Jedi was “beautifully made.”  He did.  In an Eddie Hascal sort of way.

“There are a lot of movies that are badly made that I love, and there are a lot of movies that are just beautifully made but I don’t like them.” ~George Lucas

If you read my own review on The Force Awakens, you’ll see I had much the same reaction.  Nothing new.  Cannibalistic art design.  Boring stuff.

Many had that opinion and were slayed by the legacy media for it.

So how long before can we expect the legacy media to start calling George racist, sexist and/or misogynist?

Thanks to regular commenter Alexrd, That Junkman, Mike SidiousClub Star Wars, and Lollifroll for the tip.

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36 thoughts on “George Lucas Is Fandom Menace

  1. And, unlike Rian Johnson and his ilk, Lucas is too classy to take to social media and go on an unhinged rant about what he doesn’t like. His criticisms are spot-on, of course. All six of the films he made were full of innovation and a love for cinema as a medium. The Disney films are, at best, repaints of better films, and, at worst, STAR WARS-by-rote. Soulless rehashes and remixes proclaiming themselves to be brilliant.

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    • Eh, I’ve seen him make some crass comments during the 2012 elections against conservatives on Breitbart as you can see on here: Or at least, someone with his name as their username, anyways. Plus, correct me if I’m mistaken, but didn’t he compare critics to Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 to two-year-olds holding a tantrum in a Wired magazine interview (and that’s despite even liberals who took the time to research the points in that schlockumentary denouncing Moore as a bald-faced liar)? That doesn’t make him out to be much classier than the sorry bunch at Disney who are running Disney into the ground.

      Besides, I’m pretty sure George Lucas knew full well going in what would happen, especially when his primary motivator for the sale was getting out of Obama’s tax hikes (the same ones he begged Obama to implement in the first place).

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      • What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Can you put your SJW crap on standby for 2 seconds maybe?

        Your political bullshit isn’t fooling anyone.

        Yeah because we all know how broke Lucas was and he really needed the extra money.

        Maybe try not to be so stupid tomorrow and think like a normal person for 5 seconds.

        This is Star Wars, not a poly sci class.


        • Ah, Lucas wasn’t broke in the slightest. 4 Billion is mere pocket change for him. And let’s not forget he had an entire Educational Foundation under his belt that gives him lots of dough independently of Star Wars.

          And as far as my “political bull****”, I’ve actually got sources for those claims. Case in point:

          His trying to get out of Obama’s taxes being the motive for the sale:


          Besides, he would have sold Star Wars a LOT sooner than he did if it was due to any other factors, namely fan complaints.

          Claiming critics of Fahrenheit 9/11 are comparable to bratty two year olds:

          So next time you claim I’m spewing bullcrap about Lucas, how about you stop and consider maybe I actually am mentioning stuff that’s verified in several sources.


    • Lucas never killed my dog when I was a kid (heck, we don’t even live in the same state), so don’t even bother with the sarcasm. And while I am angry at his being a Vietcong sympathizer, which, BTW, if you knew full well what the Vietcong were actually like by just doing a slight amount of research instead of making sarcastic remarks, you’d fully understand why I’d actually have EVERY right to be very angry about that, especially when during Episode IV’s development, we had the boat people displacement, the reeducation camps, and heck, the whole mess in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.


  2. All this does is further increase my disgust towards Bob Iger (as if I didn’t already have that for how he’s running Disney into the ground with his SJW antics. He’s about as bad as Katzenberg, and makes Eisner look conservative by comparison, and that’s no easy feat, especially when Eisner got fired for far less.). However, I have no sympathy for George Lucas regarding this, especially after he sold his property for the purely selfish reason of getting out of the same tax hikes that Obama implemented at his request. That was unforgivable. As far as I’m concerned, he had it coming, and he’s just as bad as Iger.

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  3. Finally, the truth is out! I have waited for this day to come – here it is!

    Lucas’ comment re: TLJ always sounded like a restrained opinion to me. It was the first thing that came to my mind as l read it. He clearly didn’t want to knock it, but didn’t want to reveal his true feeelings towards it.

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  4. Back on Naboo News, this 2015 article of Hollyweird Reporter was brought up as a reminder of the blatant lies from KK:

    “Wouldn’t it be better if he didn’t talk about the new movie?” (shill alert: wouldn’t it be better if nobody criticized our Disney overlords and just consume products while getting excited for more products?)

    “I don’t want to second-guess what George feels he needs to say or do. It’s up to him. If there’s one thing I’ve always known about George, he’s never held back on his opinions. Of course I want him to be happy with what we’re doing. But having him 100 percent on board is up to him. He’s said in his own words, he can’t do that unless he’s the one running everything. [But] he’s seen the movie, and he really liked it.”

    “he’s seen the movie, and he really liked it”

    I didn’t believe her then, considering Lucas’ Charlie Rose interview, but now it’s Iger himself who corroborates what Lucas actually said.

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    • I don’t doubt Lucas hated TFA. Too bad he knowingly made her his successor despite her openly hating the idea of Star Wars being a boys franchise based on Grace Randolph’s leaks around the time of Solo (which claimed Disney knew about it since before the sale), so he’s still unforgivable there. Were it me in his situation, I wouldn’t care if she were my friend, I would NOT give her control of Lucasfilm precisely BECAUSE of her visceral hatred of it being a boy’s franchise, knowing all too well her having control would inevitably result in its destruction.

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  6. Is Iger really so absolutely clueless that he thinks people are going to side with him and Kennedy for dismissing Lucas’ ideas in favor of their own pathetic rehash of his movies? Either his ego is so massive that he’s this delusional, or he’s so far ensconced in the Hollywood bubble that it blots out all reality.

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  7. So Lucas basically stated the obvious regarding TFA?

    And they actually had the stones to put up the laziness excuse? Like,

    “Hurr Durr we needed to be lazy and creatively bankrupt and make it feel like Star Warz! Derpity Derp!”

    So all they had to do was make a Star Wars film that “looks’ and “feels” like Star Wars?

    Interesting. No they were lazy because,

    1. That is JJ’s M.O.

    2. They were scared because they put fan reaction up against artistic integrity. Not that they have any artistic integrity over at LFL and Di$ney. But point is that they were lazy and JJ left it up for RJ to screw it up even more. JJ didn’t have any desire to come back to finish IX. Because Treverrow was still on board when JJ got finished with TFA.

    I wonder how much they had to shell out to get JJ back? Because he definitely can’t finish a movie series off, and especially the biggest film saga of all time at that!

    I knew the second JJ came out and said,

    “I am just going to make a movie that I feel I want to…”

    I am paraphrasing here, but that is the sentiment he was going for. That tells me he doesn’t have any clue as to what the content of the films should be. Definitely trouble in paradise here. Because he isn’t saying that because he has some amazing story to tell? It is because he has no clue as to where to go or what to do. So I have no doubts that JJ will make the most boring entry, yes and that means even more boring then TLJ! And it will be cookie cutter, plain Jane nonsense. The most generic ending film to any film series is what I feel will happen.

    Then when TROS is released, most people with common sense will end up saying,

    “What was the point of this entire trilogy?”

    Well the point of it was just so the execs could push an agenda driven, social commentary vehicle and rake in dollars for doing it. And be as lazy as possible while doing it.

    TROS will be as follows.

    1. The FO is defeated.
    2, The Resistance/Rebels/Republic is victorious.
    3. MaRey Sue and Crylo Ren defeat Palpatine and restore, “balance” in the Force which wasn’t actually out of balance due to Anakin turning away from the dark side and killing Palpatine and stopping the SITH. But MaRey Sue to the $hills is just a “chosen one” of something? Oh wait? So now they are going to kill Palps, “correctly” this time and thereby “balancing” the Force, “correctly” this time as well?
    4. MaRey Sue and Crylo Ren will end the film as lovers and run off and start a new JEDI order, “correctly” this time…


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